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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post: Hand-coding vs. CMS? Hand-coding gives essential experience</title>
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	<description>a group discussion about the future of student media</description>
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		<title>By: adobe business catalyst</title>
		<link>http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2009/09/guest-post-hand-coding-vs-cms-hand-coding-gives-essential-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-424862</link>
		<dc:creator>adobe business catalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hand-coding vs. CMS&lt;br&gt;bloggers today are likely to rely on CMS - simply coz it&#039;s faster if there are any errors it&#039;s easy to fix&lt;br&gt;and most bloggers don&#039;t even know what html is, all they want is to write and earn out of it&lt;br&gt;but then for programmers it would be such a great way on improving the experience of coding and code more closely study the codes behind CMS&lt;br&gt;basically just a matter of who is using</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hand-coding vs. CMS<br />bloggers today are likely to rely on CMS &#8211; simply coz it&#39;s faster if there are any errors it&#39;s easy to fix<br />and most bloggers don&#39;t even know what html is, all they want is to write and earn out of it<br />but then for programmers it would be such a great way on improving the experience of coding and code more closely study the codes behind CMS<br />basically just a matter of who is using</p>
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		<title>By: Drupal solutions</title>
		<link>http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2009/09/guest-post-hand-coding-vs-cms-hand-coding-gives-essential-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-424846</link>
		<dc:creator>Drupal solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that hand coding gives the basic experience, every website owner should know it by now but also we can&#039;t deny the huge benefits of content management systems. So I don&#039;t think we should ever chose between hand coding and cms, we should have them both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that hand coding gives the basic experience, every website owner should know it by now but also we can&#39;t deny the huge benefits of content management systems. So I don&#39;t think we should ever chose between hand coding and cms, we should have them both.</p>
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		<title>By: Random dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to your article as a whole, I would say that the best compromise here IMHO is a combination: hand code your newspaper&#039;s very own unique content management system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A content management system is not the opposite of writing static HTML, it&#039;s more like a layer of control sitting atop static html files. Pure static &quot;coding&quot; of HTML can be done inside Wordpress. When writing a post in WP I can switch between the rich text editor and the plain text editor as I am typing. I can insert my own inline CSS. I can edit the style sheets, etc etc. I could write the entire post using only the plain text editor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You could write each news article using a plain text editor and do the HTML manually - then just design a simple management system that takes each file and lists them by date or by length or whatever. A content management system is a back end for manipulating doing stuff with your content.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It almost seems like you mean to say you prefer maintaining and entire news website using no PHP, no putting content / data into databases, no Javascript/AJAX, or anything. Only pure HTML/CSS - My personal opinion being that&#039;s utterly insane as your # of articles, etc grows and grows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So am I not reading you right? I definitely think it&#039;d be helpful for journalist to understand a little bit of the back ends things too, if that&#039;s what you mean. But really... software engineering can get very complex especially when you have a website that relies on Javascript/AJAX, PHP/Python/Perl, MySQL or Postgre, HTML, CSS and Apache all at once like some giant cluster fuck. It&#039;s probably best to keep a programmer on board. I think it would probably be better for your journalists to be able to spend time learning all about web analytics and analyzing traffic. This is really more comparable to converting analog journalism to digital journalism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Couple other small points:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;&gt; There is no difference between a great CMS site and a great hand-coded site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Over generalization and ambiguous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also I don&#039;t recommend Wordpress for news sites. I think they end up looking awful. I see a lot of hyperlocal news sites try to look legit but they just like this half-blog half-news-site-with-down-syndrome configuration. Have some balls and get drupal, joomla, or contract a programmer. Wordpress is for blogs. If you have to hack it so much just to make it look like something else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to your article as a whole, I would say that the best compromise here IMHO is a combination: hand code your newspaper&#39;s very own unique content management system.</p>
<p>A content management system is not the opposite of writing static HTML, it&#39;s more like a layer of control sitting atop static html files. Pure static &#8220;coding&#8221; of HTML can be done inside Wordpress. When writing a post in WP I can switch between the rich text editor and the plain text editor as I am typing. I can insert my own inline CSS. I can edit the style sheets, etc etc. I could write the entire post using only the plain text editor.</p>
<p>You could write each news article using a plain text editor and do the HTML manually &#8211; then just design a simple management system that takes each file and lists them by date or by length or whatever. A content management system is a back end for manipulating doing stuff with your content.</p>
<p>It almost seems like you mean to say you prefer maintaining and entire news website using no PHP, no putting content / data into databases, no Javascript/AJAX, or anything. Only pure HTML/CSS &#8211; My personal opinion being that&#39;s utterly insane as your # of articles, etc grows and grows.</p>
<p>So am I not reading you right? I definitely think it&#39;d be helpful for journalist to understand a little bit of the back ends things too, if that&#39;s what you mean. But really&#8230; software engineering can get very complex especially when you have a website that relies on Javascript/AJAX, PHP/Python/Perl, MySQL or Postgre, HTML, CSS and Apache all at once like some giant cluster fuck. It&#39;s probably best to keep a programmer on board. I think it would probably be better for your journalists to be able to spend time learning all about web analytics and analyzing traffic. This is really more comparable to converting analog journalism to digital journalism.</p>
<p>Couple other small points:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; There is no difference between a great CMS site and a great hand-coded site.</p>
<p>Over generalization and ambiguous.</p>
<p>Also I don&#39;t recommend Wordpress for news sites. I think they end up looking awful. I see a lot of hyperlocal news sites try to look legit but they just like this half-blog half-news-site-with-down-syndrome configuration. Have some balls and get drupal, joomla, or contract a programmer. Wordpress is for blogs. If you have to hack it so much just to make it look like something else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: doran_baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>doran_baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your story, I read the whole thing and have to agree with almost everything your saying...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been hand coding Html, Xhtml, Javascript and Php for over 4 years now&lt;br&gt;Its way better to get to know everything that&#039;s going on behind scenes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CMS is just a quick easy way out of things... but takes longer in the long run :*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your story, I read the whole thing and have to agree with almost everything your saying&#8230;</p>
<p>I have been hand coding Html, Xhtml, Javascript and Php for over 4 years now<br />Its way better to get to know everything that&#39;s going on behind scenes.</p>
<p>CMS is just a quick easy way out of things&#8230; but takes longer in the long run :*)</p>
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		<dc:creator>How to Install the MODx CMS &#124; Quesomanrulz Tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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