Comments on: What is up with these people? http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/what-is-up-with-these-people/ a group discussion about the future of student media Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:45:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ian in hamburg http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/what-is-up-with-these-people/comment-page-1/#comment-119955 ian in hamburg Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:26:03 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/01/what-is-up-with-these-people/#comment-119955 I left j-school in '92 without a scrap of teaching in television, yet within two years I was producing and anchoring my own show in a major city. I think that if you can write and are willing to learn something new while applying the skills you learn in print, you can do well in any medium, including the web. That doesn't excuse profs from being out of date, though. I think a lot of it has to do with the old ivory tower. I left j-school in '92 without a scrap of teaching in television, yet within two years I was producing and anchoring my own show in a major city. I think that if you can write and are willing to learn something new while applying the skills you learn in print, you can do well in any medium, including the web.

That doesn't excuse profs from being out of date, though. I think a lot of it has to do with the old ivory tower.

]]> By: John Robinson http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/what-is-up-with-these-people/comment-page-1/#comment-118184 John Robinson Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:09:22 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/01/what-is-up-with-these-people/#comment-118184 Agreed, Brian. I, too, have posted about this. We're hiring in Greensboro, so if you have some of those who "get it" send them our way. Agreed, Brian. I, too, have posted about this. We're hiring in Greensboro, so if you have some of those who "get it" send them our way.

]]> By: Mr. C http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/what-is-up-with-these-people/comment-page-1/#comment-117701 Mr. C Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:44:53 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/01/what-is-up-with-these-people/#comment-117701 J profs have had their head in the sand since as far back as 1990, when I graduated. I had zero prospects for a print job because the Dallas Time Herald, The San Antonio Light and the Houston Post all closed shop within a few years of each other. In Texas, and I suppose across the country, there was a glut of experienced journalists out of work. This rolled down to the daily and weekly small town papers. So no entry level jobs for nearly a decade. Most of the j majors I graduated with either went into PR, TV or teaching. I chose TV and then teaching. And in Texas a depressingly large number of journalism schools are being crushed under the umbrella of Mass Communications departments being run by Drama or English profs. All that "web" stuff is being taught in the Design departments - the same place they sent the photographers. And that is run by the Art profs. Journalism is being sent to the slaughterhouse. Don't expect that to change any time soon. J profs have had their head in the sand since as far back as 1990, when I graduated. I had zero prospects for a print job because the Dallas Time Herald, The San Antonio Light and the Houston Post all closed shop within a few years of each other. In Texas, and I suppose across the country, there was a glut of experienced journalists out of work. This rolled down to the daily and weekly small town papers. So no entry level jobs for nearly a decade. Most of the j majors I graduated with either went into PR, TV or teaching. I chose TV and then teaching. And in Texas a depressingly large number of journalism schools are being crushed under the umbrella of Mass Communications departments being run by Drama or English profs. All that "web" stuff is being taught in the Design departments – the same place they sent the photographers. And that is run by the Art profs. Journalism is being sent to the slaughterhouse. Don't expect that to change any time soon.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/what-is-up-with-these-people/comment-page-1/#comment-117219 Ryan Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:41:25 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/01/what-is-up-with-these-people/#comment-117219 Yes I agree WTF. I want to know what crack those guys were smoking and know to stay away from it. Yes I agree WTF. I want to know what crack those guys were smoking and know to stay away from it.

]]> By: Pat Thornton http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/what-is-up-with-these-people/comment-page-1/#comment-116897 Pat Thornton Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:44:24 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/11/01/what-is-up-with-these-people/#comment-116897 This is unacceptable. What kind of "educators" does journalism have today? They are on the front line of what is wrong with journalism. We need more McAdams and less people living in the 18th century. I graduated in 2006, and I was never told by my professors about the terrible state of journalism, especially print journalism. I will say that they did encourage people to have Web skills at least. But my degree is in print journalism, and I got my Web journalism job because of what I learned on my own. I really think journalism professors need to be preparing students for the realities on the ground. Newspapers like mine are looking for people with varied skill sets. Can you write, edit, shoot photos, capture and edit audio, etc? That's the future of journalism. No one is going to hold it against you for having more skills than the minimum. What a crazy time it is for journalism education. A crazy, scary time. This is unacceptable. What kind of "educators" does journalism have today? They are on the front line of what is wrong with journalism. We need more McAdams and less people living in the 18th century.

I graduated in 2006, and I was never told by my professors about the terrible state of journalism, especially print journalism. I will say that they did encourage people to have Web skills at least. But my degree is in print journalism, and I got my Web journalism job because of what I learned on my own.

I really think journalism professors need to be preparing students for the realities on the ground. Newspapers like mine are looking for people with varied skill sets. Can you write, edit, shoot photos, capture and edit audio, etc? That's the future of journalism.

No one is going to hold it against you for having more skills than the minimum. What a crazy time it is for journalism education. A crazy, scary time.

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