Comments on: Getting to the web-first mentality – start with the Content Management System http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/ a group discussion about the future of student media Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:45:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Maurreen Skowran http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-119243 Maurreen Skowran Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:11:18 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/#comment-119243 Another advantage could be that the Web gets stories before they are cut for the sole purpose of fitting on the paper's page. Another advantage could be that the Web gets stories before they are cut for the sole purpose of fitting on the paper's page.

]]> By: Bill DiNome http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-108828 Bill DiNome Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:34:39 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/#comment-108828 Bryan, I have you to thank for helping me help my students overcome the "print-mentality hurdle" in rethinking their workflow in the ways you described here. And it was easier than I expected--in large part due to years of prompting on my part and our good luck to have some talented students in senior positions this year. I had our paper's editorial board read this article last week, and we met last night to discuss it. I was impressed by the overwhelmingly optimistic view they had about making use of College Publisher's CMS as a way to revamp the order of things. Sure, they expressed concerns and fears, every one understandable. I share them too! But they're willing to take on the challeng and resolved to develop a plan for making the transition by the new calendar year. We're all looking forward to a challenging spring semester. Thanks for all the exceptional work you put into this site. Bryan, I have you to thank for helping me help my students overcome the "print-mentality hurdle" in rethinking their workflow in the ways you described here. And it was easier than I expected–in large part due to years of prompting on my part and our good luck to have some talented students in senior positions this year.

I had our paper's editorial board read this article last week, and we met last night to discuss it. I was impressed by the overwhelmingly optimistic view they had about making use of College Publisher's CMS as a way to revamp the order of things. Sure, they expressed concerns and fears, every one understandable. I share them too! But they're willing to take on the challeng and resolved to develop a plan for making the transition by the new calendar year. We're all looking forward to a challenging spring semester.

Thanks for all the exceptional work you put into this site.

]]> By: Jerry Zurek http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-106601 Jerry Zurek Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:24:48 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/#comment-106601 Could anyone who uses GoogleDocs for assigning and tracking an article from assignment through writing through publishing explain how they do it. I'd like not to have to reinvent the wheel. We use Basecamp now to keep track of article assignments but all writing and editing is done in MS Word. Thanks. Could anyone who uses GoogleDocs for assigning and tracking an article from assignment through writing through publishing explain how they do it. I'd like not to have to reinvent the wheel.

We use Basecamp now to keep track of article assignments but all writing and editing is done in MS Word.

Thanks.

]]> By: Shawn Smith http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-106153 Shawn Smith Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:44:48 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/#comment-106153 The objections I see students raising are really interesting. I ran into those a lot over the past couple of years from student journalists. I wonder if it's messages they are getting from professors or a hopeless romantic view of old-time journalism that has many young people stuck in the mud when it comes to innovative thinking and online publishing. I really like your google docs idea. That gives everyone access to the doc. Which is nice and a timesaver. I also like Wordpress, which I use to run my blog. It's super powerful and they could use it to post letters and get reader feedback. If they want to start with something small because they don't want to go full force with their articles online, try out the letters and gauge the response. The objections I see students raising are really interesting. I ran into those a lot over the past couple of years from student journalists. I wonder if it's messages they are getting from professors or a hopeless romantic view of old-time journalism that has many young people stuck in the mud when it comes to innovative thinking and online publishing.

I really like your google docs idea. That gives everyone access to the doc. Which is nice and a timesaver. I also like WordPress, which I use to run my blog. It's super powerful and they could use it to post letters and get reader feedback. If they want to start with something small because they don't want to go full force with their articles online, try out the letters and gauge the response.

]]> By: Rich http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-106057 Rich Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:38:44 +0000 http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/10/10/getting-to-the-web-first-mentality-start-with-the-cms/#comment-106057 Maybe I've underthinking the problem, but why not: 1. Have reporters write stories in the online CMS of choice, allowing editors to see the stories right away, instead of juggling attachments and external programs like Microsoft Word. Save as draft instead of published. 2. Allow each story to be published as XML publicly without linked to the main website (requires creation of another CMS template). 3. Have page designers download each XML document and import into InDesign, setting up styles that correspond to the XML document structure. (Window > Tags > (Fly-out menu) > Map Tags to Styles). 4. For bonus points, I'm sure you could automate the download of updated XML documents of stories with some scripts out there and some creative Googling. Maybe I've underthinking the problem, but why not:

1. Have reporters write stories in the online CMS of choice, allowing editors to see the stories right away, instead of juggling attachments and external programs like Microsoft Word. Save as draft instead of published.

2. Allow each story to be published as XML publicly without linked to the main website (requires creation of another CMS template).

3. Have page designers download each XML document and import into InDesign, setting up styles that correspond to the XML document structure. (Window > Tags > (Fly-out menu) > Map Tags to Styles).

4. For bonus points, I'm sure you could automate the download of updated XML documents of stories with some scripts out there and some creative Googling.

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